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	<title>Comments on: Would Hank Join the H. L. Mencken Club?</title>
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		<title>By: Izak</title>
		<link>http://dissidentbooks.com/blog/2009/11/06/would-hank-join-the-h-l-mencken-club/comment-page-1/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>Izak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knowing that &quot;HL Mencken&quot; was basically a codeword for &quot;politically incorrect,&quot; coupled with the fact that I don&#039;t really care much about Mencken&#039;s views (although they are interesting and occasionally profound), I thought it was a good presentation, the speeches I saw at any rate. There&#039;s no real word for what the organization actually believes because it&#039;s essentially a scattered hodgepodge of various non-leftists with eclectic value systems, so you might as well take one of them from Baltimore as the figurehead and call it a shindig.

The praying before dinner was hardly offensive - if a bunch of Christians believe in Mencken&#039;s ideas but don&#039;t subscribe entirely to his views on religion, I hardly see how it&#039;s disrespecting or disgracing Mencken. I think in any pro-Mencken organization, you&#039;re going to have a variety of opinions on his hyper-individualized points of view. You&#039;re basically playing tit for tat, saying that &quot;it only focused on some of Mencken&#039;s values but not others&quot; and then &quot;I would run it this way&quot; essentially encouraging people to do the same thing. Less pesky principles, more Nietzschean nihilism! Unfortunately, this is a principle in and of itself. If everyone decided to autonomously pray, it probably would have looked the same as it did with whoever it was leading the prayer, so I don&#039;t see much validity in blaming a club for catering to majority opinion. No one in the Darwinian Societies is complaining that scientists have long since rejected Darwin&#039;s idea of Pangenesis.

Also, I&#039;m not sure I would paint the whole institution as racially dogmatic and simplistic just because of a few various folks trying to promote their own agendas passing out flyers. That&#039;s like me saying, &quot;These people were a bunch of orthodox Menckenites!&quot; because your book sold well there. The most I saw pertaining to race in the whole presentation was a brief (albeit admittedly superfluous) rundown of mean race IQs in one of the presentations, and a discussion on how more systematically lenient loans to underachieving minorities make little sense when these minorities are more likely to default on said loans in the first place.

That said, I do admire your dedication to the Mencken, and it seems inevitable that eventually someone would go to an event called The Mencken Club Conference expecting actual discussion of the dude, so I&#039;m not sure where the lack of anticipation on their part comes from. And I also am critical of &quot;paleo-conservatives&quot; (who invented that word anyhow? Wikipedia?) who cater to a somewhat racially nationalistic sensibility but refuse to give credit to black leaders who promote basically the same agenda, so I see where you&#039;re coming from there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knowing that &#8220;HL Mencken&#8221; was basically a codeword for &#8220;politically incorrect,&#8221; coupled with the fact that I don&#8217;t really care much about Mencken&#8217;s views (although they are interesting and occasionally profound), I thought it was a good presentation, the speeches I saw at any rate. There&#8217;s no real word for what the organization actually believes because it&#8217;s essentially a scattered hodgepodge of various non-leftists with eclectic value systems, so you might as well take one of them from Baltimore as the figurehead and call it a shindig.</p>
<p>The praying before dinner was hardly offensive &#8211; if a bunch of Christians believe in Mencken&#8217;s ideas but don&#8217;t subscribe entirely to his views on religion, I hardly see how it&#8217;s disrespecting or disgracing Mencken. I think in any pro-Mencken organization, you&#8217;re going to have a variety of opinions on his hyper-individualized points of view. You&#8217;re basically playing tit for tat, saying that &#8220;it only focused on some of Mencken&#8217;s values but not others&#8221; and then &#8220;I would run it this way&#8221; essentially encouraging people to do the same thing. Less pesky principles, more Nietzschean nihilism! Unfortunately, this is a principle in and of itself. If everyone decided to autonomously pray, it probably would have looked the same as it did with whoever it was leading the prayer, so I don&#8217;t see much validity in blaming a club for catering to majority opinion. No one in the Darwinian Societies is complaining that scientists have long since rejected Darwin&#8217;s idea of Pangenesis.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m not sure I would paint the whole institution as racially dogmatic and simplistic just because of a few various folks trying to promote their own agendas passing out flyers. That&#8217;s like me saying, &#8220;These people were a bunch of orthodox Menckenites!&#8221; because your book sold well there. The most I saw pertaining to race in the whole presentation was a brief (albeit admittedly superfluous) rundown of mean race IQs in one of the presentations, and a discussion on how more systematically lenient loans to underachieving minorities make little sense when these minorities are more likely to default on said loans in the first place.</p>
<p>That said, I do admire your dedication to the Mencken, and it seems inevitable that eventually someone would go to an event called The Mencken Club Conference expecting actual discussion of the dude, so I&#8217;m not sure where the lack of anticipation on their part comes from. And I also am critical of &#8220;paleo-conservatives&#8221; (who invented that word anyhow? Wikipedia?) who cater to a somewhat racially nationalistic sensibility but refuse to give credit to black leaders who promote basically the same agenda, so I see where you&#8217;re coming from there.</p>
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		<title>By: DB_Pub</title>
		<link>http://dissidentbooks.com/blog/2009/11/06/would-hank-join-the-h-l-mencken-club/comment-page-1/#comment-271</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Dr. Viking!  Yeah, I put a lot of thought into this post, and without sounding immodest, I think it turned out pretty good.  That&#039;s largely because I let ole Henry Louis speak for himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Dr. Viking!  Yeah, I put a lot of thought into this post, and without sounding immodest, I think it turned out pretty good.  That&#8217;s largely because I let ole Henry Louis speak for himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Confederate Viking</title>
		<link>http://dissidentbooks.com/blog/2009/11/06/would-hank-join-the-h-l-mencken-club/comment-page-1/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>Confederate Viking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done sir.</p>
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